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Post by NJDevilsGM on Mar 25, 2016 21:28:01 GMT -5
I know we usually do one at or near the trade deadline, but would there be any interest in doing one in the coming days? We are about a month from the trade deadline, might be worthwhile looking into a summit now, considering we are starting to see some trade blocks popping up and a few teams have begun selling off in advance of next year.
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Post by Carolina GM on Mar 26, 2016 11:53:11 GMT -5
Maybe I'm wrong, but seems like the league is very quiet this year. A lot of the GM's are busy with life.
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Post by SJSharks on Mar 27, 2016 10:59:22 GMT -5
Or they want a first for Zach Kassian.  |
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Post by Carolina GM on Mar 27, 2016 20:18:15 GMT -5
Just for SJ, Kassian can be had for a 2nd.  |
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Post by Anaheim GM on Mar 28, 2016 10:31:37 GMT -5
Or a lot of GMs have realized that revolving door rosters has PROVEN to be a recipe for disaster... People can surmise all they want. Our GMs are smart...and from talking to many of them throughout the year, they are NOT busy with life (although many of us are, however, MAKE an AWFUL lot of time for the league-still...THIS IS OUR STRESS BALL and a DARN GOOD ONE AT THAT) they are practicing patience and building their strategies......Additionally, it is less than a month before the trade deadline and historicaly not a very active time for deals. I think there have been a TON of deals this year already from my observation. Maybe they just aren't there to make the really ones though .....  Things will heat up as the deadline approaches (as it always does). I think the parallel to the NHL is uncanny, personally. |
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Post by Anaheim GM on Mar 28, 2016 10:54:46 GMT -5
Maybe I'm wrong, but seems like the league is very quiet this year. A lot of the GM's are busy with life. In doing further research, you really are dead wrong, Ron, and here is why. Here's a breakdown of the deals by month and keep in mind this is strictly trade transactions between two teams, not total pieces moving: September: 14 October: 19 November: 9 December: 8 January: 26 February: 24 March: 8 TOTALS: 108 These trends indicate that GMs are more apt to make changes prior to the season beginning, hold steady through game 20 (or close to that number) to see what is broken, make a lot of transactions in the several days following game 15-20, then slow down prior to the trade deadline in order to not miss out on any bargains. That's called smart bartering, if you want my opinion. If your "storefront" is not being visited it is probably because your advertising and customer service stinks or no one wants the garbage you are peddling, and I am not singling any particular GM out in this statement whatsover. Somethings looking inward provides the answer and, with these numbers, if you aren't getting what you need or want, it may be a good time to change up your approach. Or the rest of us will just beat you. |
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Post by NJDevilsGM on Mar 28, 2016 16:48:38 GMT -5
I wonder how that compares with past years, but I'm also way to lazy to do what Mark did and I'm not going to as anyone else to do what Mark did as well. Thanks for tabulating that Mark.
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Post by Carolina GM on Mar 29, 2016 0:16:32 GMT -5
Thx Mark, hope you're right. My comment wasn't meant as a negative towards any GM's, just thought it was quieter this year.
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Post by ColumbusGM on Mar 29, 2016 1:36:27 GMT -5
Thx Mark, hope you're right. My comment wasn't meant as a negative towards any GM's, just thought it was quieter this year. I think the reality of this year is that teams are snatching up the available players. The bidding wars aren't truly happening. Deals are done fast. It feels like there's little action, there's just no major long talks... |
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Post by Anaheim GM on Mar 29, 2016 10:44:11 GMT -5
Thx Mark, hope you're right. My comment wasn't meant as a negative towards any GM's, just thought it was quieter this year. I think the reality of this year is that teams are snatching up the available players. The bidding wars aren't truly happening. Deals are done fast. It feels like there's little action, there's just no major long talks... Some further points to make in regards to trade activity: 1) There have been 90 in the NHL in 2015-16 (that dates back to June 19th and the number I gave for the NsHL only goes back to September 1)....So the NsHL is +18 AT LEAST. 2) GMs have gotten to know each other over the years and communication is much, MUCH easier (email, texting, IM, phone, video conferencing) than it used to be. These GMs have built relationships with trade partners who they know they can count on for fair trade discussions, plain and simple. Understanding that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, GMs are able to put a realistic value on what they are peddling therefore it takes MUCH less time to find someone to trade with. In essence, our GMs are more confident and much smarter (which is a very good thing). 3) GMs today are much, MUCH, MUCH more willing to throw out an offer than in previous years (see answer two) which has made negotiations much more fluid and quick. Additionally, our GMs also value one another's time a whole lot more so the tire kicking and "trading just to trade" have been reduced to a minimum (which is good). When you lead opening negotiations with a legitimate offer, you reduce trade talks by several steps. If nothing else, there is a perceived value that can be put upon a player the GM is seeking and the receiving GM knows instantly whether or not it is worth their time to produce a counter-offer or not. That's a good thing. Players who are NOT afraid to leave some "currency" on the table by making an opening legitimate offer are rewarded with good deals, either initially, or fairly quickly following in an awful lot of cases. 4) GMs have drafted, created, re-rated (sometimes more than once), and PDP'd players over the years. Who is motivated to trade a piece that they have so much invested in? Kind of like how the NHL is with their franchise core players. (A very good thing).--In essence, the available players, or the supply of tradeable commodities has been reduced over the years. From a challenge standpoint, this is where you want the NsHL, in my opinion. 30 GMs who have identified their core of players, are confident enough to make an opening offer when they wish to go after a player, have a defined direction with their organization, and value their colleague's time when approaching negotiations. On the contrary to how "busy" the league appears to be, I would make a respectful argument that it has been as busy as it ever was to those who are doing the things well listed above. Aside from trades just to trade that used to happen frequently around here (when we had little invested in our organizations--time, youth nurturing, higher draft pick values, etc.) I think communication has never been better. The message board is as busy as ever. Personally, my email box, phone, ICQ, and even BBM have NEVER been busier, and I know I have other responsibilities within the league as an agent, however, that solidifies even further how much smarter our GMs have come in the last decade. The deals offer comparable players, fine arguments and back their contract offers up with data, statistics, and personal feelings, even. The evolution has been magnificent over the years. I'll argue that we are MUCH more efficient, much smarter, much more in-touch with each other from a communication standpoint then we ever have been. If you are a GM who may not be as busy as you once were, or do not chat with your fellow GMs as much as you once did, or are not making the deals that you once were able to make, I would start by asking yourself some questions, personally. I know I had to. It certainly is not because the league isn't active, IMO. Love this league. The ULTIMATE stress ball!!! |
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Post by FlyersGM on Mar 29, 2016 14:43:11 GMT -5
I was going to say. I thought this was one of the most active years we've had in awhile. A ton of big names, and top six forwards have moved. Filip Forsberg, Jeff Skinner, Gustav Nyquist, Pavel Datsyuk, the Sedins, Kyle Okposo, Dave Bolland, Mikko Koivu and that's just off the top of my head..
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Post by NashvilleGM on Mar 29, 2016 23:27:17 GMT -5
I was going to say. I thought this was one of the most active years we've had in awhile. A ton of big names, and top six forwards have moved. Filip Forsberg, Jeff Skinner, Gustav Nyquist, Pavel Datsyuk, the Sedins, Kyle Okposo, Dave Bolland, Mikko Koivu and that's just off the top of my head.. It would seem that I got most of those players .. lol |
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Things will heat up as the deadline approaches (as it always does). I think the parallel to the NHL is uncanny, personally.
