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Post by thrashersgm on Oct 23, 2005 19:13:26 GMT -5
Here are the NsHL salaries from the "Finances" page.
San Jose 68,471,870.00 Montreal 67,535,750.00 Chicago 65,622,500.00 Tampa Bay 61,980,000.00 New Jersey 59,064,867.00 St.Louis 58,830,000.00 New York R. 57,880,000.00 Boston 57,400,000.00 Anahieim 57,052,567.00 Washington 55,933,625.00 Ottawa 55,790,000.00 Pittsburgh 55,531,056.00 Colorado 55,510,000.00 Los Angeles 54,800,000.00 Detroit 48,067,500.00 Vancouver 46,035,000.00 Carolina 45,660,000.00 Edmonton 44,116,333.00 Minnesota 41,501,340.00 New York I. 40,710,000.00 Columbus 40,385,158.00 Actual NHL Salary Cap 39,000,000.00 Nashville 35,870,000.00 Buffalo 33,225,000.00 Philadelphia 30,570,700.00 Phoenix 29,855,000.00 Atlanta 28,885,000.00 Florida 26,211,000.00 Toronto 25,781,000.00 Calgary 24,227,950.00 Dallas 20,718,473.00
Some changes need to be made to the NsHL. Some players salaries really make me laugh.
All in all. The NHL fixed its problems and the NsHL will have some bankrupt teams soon.
I would like to say a special thanks to Spencer who alone took 20+ million off my books this year.
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Post by CapitalsGM on Oct 23, 2005 19:31:11 GMT -5
You have to pay to play. And that is what the Capitals are doing;).
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Post by minnesotagm on Oct 23, 2005 22:50:29 GMT -5
While I was a supporter of the owners in the lockout, I do agree with the players on the fact it's up to owners what we pay. We have even more power to do so here as opposed to the NHL owners, as I don't think we have to worry about collusion.
I signed a pair of big salary guys in Primeau and Stillman in the off-season, but I did so within my budget. Bottom line is, if you don't want the salaries to go up, don't pay it. Teams can be built to win without being at $70 million a season. Draft well and trade well.
If we want salaries under control, it's our job to keep them their, not the player agents. They are doing their jobs. If the NsHL CBA ever expires, then we can discuss measures, such as a player salary cap, team salary cap, etc.
Btw, the NHL went for a cap because teams were spending, in general, more than they brought in. Do we have the same problem here? Or is it just a handful of high spending teams losing money?
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Post by ColumbusGM on Oct 24, 2005 14:23:49 GMT -5
No need for a cap, just brains. Once a player becomes too expensive, you've got to be willing to let him walk, or trade him just in time to get the right return.
Also, teams can't just bow to their players wishes all the time. Sure, sometimes it's better to get a deal done and over with, but if you can negotiate every player down another $100,000 on their contract you'll save $2,000,000.
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Post by Anaheim GM on Oct 24, 2005 15:42:58 GMT -5
If I can negotiate $200,000 more a salary than I will be rich, rich, RIIIIICH!!!! Or still living in fantasyland wishing these commissions were real.
The business model of the NsHL is working well, actually. There was around a $1 million that the league produced (which means the budget is just about balanced). There are teams that need to cut back and there are teams that can afford to take on more salaries.
My theory has so far been dead on when we created the finance model. The business model will dictate players salaries through supply and demand. The point is that as long as GMs have excess money to spend they will be willing to bid more on players.
When the time comes when money becomes scarce and teams have less resources the demand for higher priced talent will be curbed significantly.
The demand for high priced players has already significantly dropped off. This is not just an observation but a fact. The demand is curbing itself against the supply and subsequently will force down salaries in the near future. The process is already in the infant stages.
You can call me the Alan Greenspan of the NsHL.
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Post by FlyersGM on Oct 24, 2005 23:56:41 GMT -5
Marty, I agree and I've been vocal about it in my press releases the past two seasons. That is why I upgraded my team via trades and affordable signings this season. I could've signed an aging Kolzig for three million plus but opted for the cheaper and probably better Nurminen. Instead of spending 11 million on Anson Carter or close to 6 million on Mike Johnson I went with Czerkawski. Look at what happened to Sergei Berezin in LA. It's a high risk, high reward situation that I am willing to gamble on. Who's to say Czerkawski won't be as good playing with Gagne and Brad Richards as Anson Carter would? I've experimented with players like Satan and it didn't work out. I dealt one of my best players and decided to fill the void with Jeff Carter and Mike Richards. It's simply the way to go. Not only is it keeping my payroll to such a low number that I will be profitable, I am letting my future develop while icing a team that should be competitive maybe moreso then the team of veterans which I lost 8 million dollars on the past two season. However, you must also agree that you and I are also victims of the game having spent over 50 million on payroll the past two seasons at different times also. We don't need a salary cap, we need brains. It's called a budget...use it, set a number that will enable your team to be profitable, competitive while developing from within. I am letting players like Boyle, Sturm, Richards, Gagne, Pitkanen and such grow together as I fill in the gaps with M. Richards, Hugh Jessiman, Antero Nittymaki, Petter Nokelainen, Jeff Carter and others. It seems the best route to go.
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Post by coloradogm on Oct 25, 2005 5:53:16 GMT -5
The key to anything is balance! If you spend, spend, spend, it will catch up to you eventually. That is the way the system was built. However there are some teams that are making some serious scratch and they will be able to sign some players to lucrative deals. It is up to the rest of us to do the best you can with what you got.
I agree with Jack for once though. lol
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Post by LAKingsGM on Oct 25, 2005 10:28:06 GMT -5
Well, I'm impressed. Jack Dagnese has just given the quintessential NsHL answer to the question of financial viability. Read his post and read it well. It's all in there. Financial viability, a budget you can afford, developing young players...etc. etc. It's all there. I can't say it any better myself.
The Los Angeles Kings have had some of the highest payrolls in the league. Although a gamble, making it to the Conference finals last season enabled this franchise to make over $7,000,000 with a payroll of $63,000,000 (at the end of the season). It can happen. It takes strategy, brains, smart deals, and young players filling in when you need them. (Young players are CHEAPER!!!)
Well said, Jack.
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Post by LAKingsGM on Oct 25, 2005 10:34:30 GMT -5
The Finance Committee and the Commissioner's Office will be publishing a new finance report/credit report for all 30 teams. I am not worried about the salary levels yet. There are teams that needed to curb spending and have done so. Most teams with huge payrolls are large markets or have plenty of cash. This season will be our 3rd operating season. We'll see what happens.
Nathan Kopsack NsHL Commissioner
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Post by formerBostonGM on Oct 25, 2005 14:14:20 GMT -5
Don't become the next Dave Bonkosky, and learn to spend money wisely. It's all too easy to spend 60+ and get swept by Colorado in the first round.
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Post by Red Wings GM on Oct 25, 2005 15:27:48 GMT -5
Geoff--
You're such a motherf**ker who spent no time on our team the first year. All you said was pull the trigger. Anywho....
I cut $35million in salary from my first year. Keep ripping on my team cause yours reminds me of this tiny dick I saw once -- wait that was yours.
How's your wife and my daughter?
Late,
Dave
PS -- I need to moderate this shizznit more often so I can whip your disfigured ass in a war of words. Best Friend of 20 years? No longer. Eat shizznit.
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Post by formerBostonGM on Oct 25, 2005 17:39:24 GMT -5
You are an angry man. It's not my fault your girlfriend likes me better. Just tell her to stop calling me and I'll stop giving it to her.
Also, clean your car. It smells like a fish ate your mom's cooking, then died Elvis style in the backseat. Time to Fabreeze that b!tch.
It's nice to see you posting all of a sudden. What happened? Did your needle point class finally come to an end? Was there a Golden Girls month-long marathon on the "We" channel? Did you finally make it all the way through your DVD box set of "The L Word"? Go back to posting every three weeks. We were all better off that way. Except Spencer. He likes you for some reason.
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Post by Red Wings GM on Oct 26, 2005 8:39:17 GMT -5
Hey! Forgot to tell you! You know how your car got stolen and some bum crashed it into a tree and then pooped in the backseat? Remember how it was clean as a whistle when you got it back? Remember how I put a brownie under the emergency brake (the brownies your mother-in-law made that tasted like shizznit)? check under the seat too, pal. and under your wife's huge, milky white breasts -- whilst I was last under them, I left it there.
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Post by ex-BluesGM on Oct 26, 2005 8:52:36 GMT -5
Jeesh!
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Post by Anaheim GM on Oct 26, 2005 10:17:57 GMT -5
I can't stop laughing at this.....people spend $55 a seat at the Laugh Factory for this kind of comedy.
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