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Post by coloradogm on Sept 15, 2005 14:18:44 GMT -5
In regards to Block 3 UFA:
I have noticed offer all over the place. When placing a bid do you have to just beat the total contract value or is it a yearly salary? or is it an all out bidding war?
Once you are overbid do you need to rebid? or just let the agent know what you are willing to give?
Will the agent factor other things into players destination?
Or is it: Money Talks?
Any help here would be greatly appreciated
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Post by ColumbusGM on Sept 15, 2005 16:34:34 GMT -5
Agreed.
I'd like the offers that are deemed lesser to be deleted if possible by the moderator, or player agent if possible (might not be), so we actually know who the front runner is.
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Post by coloradogm on Sept 15, 2005 17:01:43 GMT -5
Due to the confusion regarding this process I am retracting ALL of my offers to free agents in block 3
If someone can explain the process better to me I will jump back into the mix but I personally think that we need league clarification on the matter
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Post by formerBostonGM on Sept 15, 2005 22:22:33 GMT -5
Mark is the only one that can handle free agency. He'll clear everything up on Sunday
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Post by coloradogm on Sept 17, 2005 11:36:16 GMT -5
IMO: I think that we should ALL stop bidding until Mark gets back and clarifies issues. I think all we are doing by bidding without the NsHLPA's mediation is making this worse! The NsHL is a first class league prided on organization and structure and this is totally out of control!!
Mike, Jeff or any BOD member can't you guys stop the bidding process until he returns?
Just my take
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Post by minnesotagm on Sept 17, 2005 12:03:49 GMT -5
I agree. I've stopped bidding when this question began, other than to clarrify which of my bids were one-way offers and which were two-way. If a salary ceiling, say of $1,000,000 a season, is in place for some of these players but we have 10 teams over that level, it's going to start something with likely several of those teams being mightily peeved at the end result.
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Post by CalgaryGM on Sept 17, 2005 13:17:59 GMT -5
I think everyone knows by now that certain FA's have a ceiling as to what can be offered to them. The rules, which most of us never read properly until Spencer brought it up, clearly states what a player can be offered depending on the round in which they were drafted in the NHL.
If they were never drafted they are then treated like a 1st rounder regarding any offer.
Where any of these FA's end up being signed, will depend on their playing time. Since in all likely hood, all of these young FA's will be offered the maximum allowed under the rules, then Mark will decide which team or teams is the better fit.
Any offers that are over the limit will be null and void. Which is why I re-submitted all of my offers in accordance with the limits allowed.
This is my take on the situation. Andrew
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Post by coloradogm on Sept 17, 2005 13:20:00 GMT -5
yes, but I still think we need some input from the NsHLPA on this matter
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Post by ex-BluesGM on Sept 17, 2005 21:32:41 GMT -5
I don't see how this is such a big deal....read the rules, follow them to the best of your/our ability and Mark will come in and players will get assigned accordingly...no biggie.
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Post by coloradogm on Sept 18, 2005 8:38:05 GMT -5
It is a big deal IMO. This league is about stability and organization. The craziness and confusion that has gone on the past few days reminds me of another league that I used to be in, not the NsHL!
Yes, we have the rules to read but there was still some confusion as you can tell with the bids. Last year Mark moderated the process so this would not have happened.
just my .2
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Post by CalgaryGM on Sept 18, 2005 9:12:47 GMT -5
Confusion? The constitution clearly states how much we can bid. A player signing their first pro NsHL contract can sign a maximum amount according to what round they were drafted in the NHL. No confusion there.
Round and amount 1- $1,000,000 2-$950,000 3-$800,000 4-$700,000 5-$650,000 6-$500,000 7-$475,000 8-$450,000 9-$400,000
Undrafted Free Agents signing their first pro contract can be signed at the maximum of 1st round compensation.
The NsHL Players Association will determine contract length(up to 5 years) and any signing bonuses, should their client warrant one.
I say we continue the bidding using these rules. I see no confusion. Since the ones that are bidding are bidding the maximum salary allowed, then Mark will decide the best team for these players to play on, based on playing time we say we have for them.
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Post by coloradogm on Sept 18, 2005 9:32:34 GMT -5
there is NO confusion about the constitution. I think the problem we have here is the craziness in the bidding. That is something that Mark normally would regulate. Bid all you want, I am out until IU hear word from the NsHLPA or the commish on the matter. When you have GMs bidding and then other GMs bidding incorrect amounts and such as this has happened during this block it throws everything off. Last year if a GM bid incorrectly or TOO much Mark moderated that and kept order.
Bid ALL you want guys, it is not going to change my opinion.
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Post by formerBostonGM on Sept 18, 2005 19:40:37 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I have no control over the message board. I can only help Mark clean up the free agency mess, if he needs my help.
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Post by NsHLPA Director Mark on Sept 19, 2005 9:29:41 GMT -5
I am sifting through the mess right now. This message board looks like New Orleans, post Katrina.
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Post by ColumbusGM on Sept 19, 2005 9:50:05 GMT -5
That's not true--New Orleans was much more orderly, civilized, and prepared for their mess
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