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Post by carolinagm on Jul 2, 2004 12:45:56 GMT -5
All NHL teams should make a statement and not sign any free agents until they have a proper collective bargaining in place... 70% of profits spent on salaries is non-sense.
What do you guys think?
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Post by Anaheim GM on Jul 6, 2004 12:19:35 GMT -5
I know.....the players are DEFINENTLY entitled to a larger share of the team's revenues. ;D "Player Agenty" enough for you all?  B.S. aside....there needs to be a complete overhaul. When the NHL teams have collectively lost over $200 million in one season there are serious issues to consider. A salary cap and revenue sharing are two of such issues that will need to be implemented should the NHL wish to be successful. |
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Post by NYIsles on Jul 6, 2004 12:21:58 GMT -5
I think we are in for a loooooong winter
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Post by ColumbusGM on Jul 9, 2004 19:09:13 GMT -5
The problem is the teams scream and cry about having lost money, however no teams are making their books public to show their actual income. Sounds like a lie to me. NHL salaries are indeed high, however they are not anywhere near NBA/NFL level...there is no real problem, only TEAM mismanagement. Peter Forsberg DESERVES 11 million per season in the NHL, (in terms of value, at pro-sport market level), possibly even more. It's the Martin Lapointe type players contracts that need work.
I say it should be business as usual.
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Post by FlyersGM on Jul 10, 2004 0:48:58 GMT -5
The problem is the teams scream and cry about having lost money, however no teams are making their books public to show their actual income. Sounds like a lie to me. NHL salaries are indeed high, however they are not anywhere near NBA/NFL level...there is no real problem, only TEAM mismanagement. Peter Forsberg DESERVES 11 million per season in the NHL, (in terms of value, at pro-sport market level), possibly even more. It's the Martin Lapointe type players contracts that need work. I say it should be business as usual. The LA Kings made there books public last year and weren't lying about the losses they claimed. Arthur Levitt is legit enough for me to believe it. If you doubt a team is losing money and you are educated well enough that you can caculate there finances they may be willing to back up there claims. |
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Post by ColumbusGM on Jul 10, 2004 1:39:43 GMT -5
I have no doubt that some teams lost money, however that is business. Losses only show the poor business sense of the owner/operator, or the luck (the Kings would be luck...as on paper they're a good team).
Does anyone truly believe the league lost $200,000,000?
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Post by carolinagm on Jul 10, 2004 15:20:28 GMT -5
The Canadiens had to make it to the third round of the playoffs to even the finance books in 03-04... this is a team that has no problems filling in the seats at the Bell Centre even if some seats are expensive as hell...
If they ended the season in the red then yes i do beleive the 30 teams collectively lost 200 millions.
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Post by oilergm on Jul 10, 2004 23:52:23 GMT -5
Well, I for one think the players make way too much money, no matter if the team is in the red or not. No one is worth 11 million and if I was an owner of a team, I would shake my head. The real losers with all this money being thrown around are fans. With retarded ticket prices in most cities, only rich people can go and most of the big city teams have corporations that buy up the tickets for clients.
Everyone is to blame, not just players, nor owners or fans, but a system has to be in place for it to survive. Hockey will always survive in Canada but the NHL needs teams in USA. When a team makes it to the 3rd round (SJ) and still loses 10 million there is a problem.
I think players should have a set contract and get clauses for achievements, individual and team wise. Why pay a player for last season or 2 seaons ago. Pay for what they do in the season. I am sure most players can live with, say top end, 1 million at the start of the hockey year. Then at the end, let teams give the bonuses. But I find it retarded that they pay for past glories.
This of course is my own thoughts and hope there is hockey in the fall, but if not I will watch junior hockey where hockey is actually played with some meaning and not their pocket books.
Bruce
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