Iginla on the block?

[tempdevilsgm]

It is rumored that new New Jersey brass is shopping Jarome Iginla.

New Jersey is said to be looking for a young top 6 forward in return among other things.

[e-mail] if interested

[WildGM]

I dont think Patrick Elias would sign in new jersey if he knew they were going to be trading away their star player and after their other star player walked away from the team.

Maybe a permanent gm should be brought in to make these decisions..

[FlyersGM]

You've also turned down and grossly miscalculated free agents values causing them to sign for much less on the open market than what their former teams offered...

[Vegas Golden Knights GM]

That's why I let half my team walk, Jack! So far, everyone is signing for shorter terms and less money.

[BluesGM]

how did he grossly miscalculate... i guess thats the part im missing here, by what Nate was saying it seems like the Agent at least he had miscalculated Pittsburgh's UFA's and probably cost his clients good money. Thats not the GM's fault

[FlyersGM]

Nov 30, 2012 11:10:12 GMT -5 BluesGM said:

how did he grossly miscalculate... i guess thats the part im missing here, by what Nate was saying it seems like the Agent at least he had miscalculated Pittsburgh's UFA's and probably cost his clients good money. Thats not the GM's fault

^ ??

[NsHLPA Director Mark]

Perhaps if you looked even a little closer at the big picture and the future of the New Jersey organization, that has been largely neglected for two seasons, you'd understand why, sometimes, the best player on the team MIGHT have to go in the right deal, to provide a healthy future for the team. Ask Dave C. and Atlanta about this. WPG is MILES ahead to this day and one of their first moves wasn't to deal a 35 year old veteran. He traded Kovalchuk in his mid-20's PRIME to turn that franchise completely around. Experience win.

[avalanchegm]

I have found Terry to be fair as an agent. Havent always agreed with player requests but thats how it is for everyone. I'm sure there has to be more than meets the eye here and perhaps a private conversation is a better way to go about it instead of calling people out on the board.

[WildGM]

excuse me Jack, if that is your real name. I am not your player agent and thank shizznit for that. I have had nothing but success in dealing with the teams I am responsible for. I would love to see these examples your talking about and you can feel free to email me and I will go over them with you. To my recollection the only players that haven't been signed in terms of offers I received were from Pittsburgh as he offered rfas less than a qualifying offer which I told him on more than one occasion I would not tolerate. As in "real"life if you fail to qualify a restricted free agent they go to free agency. |Low balling anyone doesnt tend to get you very far in any sense.

So please feel free to email me these "grossly"miscalculated examples you speak of cause Id love to know where they are coming from.

To reiterate the role of the player agent in my understanding is to get the "best"deal for your client( the player), and in my year as an agent I feel I have exceeded those expectations.

Side Note to Nathan, its not hard to take 5 minutes and browse through the site to find out how much money your player made last year. And I did tell you to qualify your players properly, in fact I even pointed out where you could keep a player in the league for another year, who would have otherwise been gone. If you think you guys can just send me winky dink offers with no explanations or reference two players who had the same points but not back up anything, and Ill just accept your offers, please, think again. If I send you a counter offer that you dislike, that is where you back up your initial thought and enter into "negotiations".

Lastly, Yes I do think trading Jerome Iginla is the wise thing to do in New Jersey, however I don't feel as though a temporary gm should be making that decision. It is also a sideways move to sign a vet like Elias and keep on a Marty B in net if the team is not "going "for it. I would also like to point out that despite being New Jerseys player agent, I did not agree to any of the new contracts that were signed to clarify that matter as well.

[NsHLPA Director Mark]

Terry, In short, New Jersey GROSSLY needs any and all assets for the future health of the organization. Turning over a train wreck to an inexperienced GM is not an option at this point as the depth of this organization is extremely far gone and quite pitiful. Case closed.

[NsHLPA Director Mark]

Gentlemen,

You are almost NEVER going to fully agree with your player agent. It's part of the game. I like the job Terry is doing, personally. If you're agitating an occassional GM, you're doing it better than most. My own brother has tossed me out of his office. That's the way it goes. If you need any help, Terry, let me know.

[FlyersGM]

Excuse me Terry, (if that is your real name)

I dont agree with RFA's signing for less than their qaulifying offers either. However, Emery (RFA turned UFA) probably signed for less than he made last year, which we will find out shortly. Rick DiPietro signed a back up goalie contract after an All-Star calibre season. The jury is still out on Jordon Leopold, those are three examples. Hey, you made it public and I just responded.

We all make mistakes, I don't agree with interim GM status either, I disagreed with Tony's moves last yesr and it turned out I was wrong. When I was called out on it I did admit it though.

[NsHLPA Director Mark]

Can you tell this league is competitive in every sense of the word?

All right, guys, let's drop it. If you are having trouble with your agent, or having difficulty signing a player please come see me (I won't guarantee a switch). I am available instantly via email and mobile phone.

I'm going to guess that those who thought they screwed up by not signing a particular player or players ended up in a better situation, organizationally. Better players cheaper?. What lesson can be learned here.

[NY Islanders GM]

Nov 30, 2012 20:36:12 GMT -5 FlyersGM said:

I dont agree with RFA's signing for less than their qaulifying offers either. However, Emery (RFA turned UFA) probably signed for less than he made last year, which we will find out shortly. Rick DiPietro signed a back up goalie contract after an All-Star calibre season. The jury is still out on Jordon Leopold, those are three examples.

In respect to Mark's comments about dropping things right now, and I most definitely agree this isn't the right way to discuss sensitive items like this and certainly don't want to be involved but feel I need to make one item clear here so no words get misconstrued: no offers were ever exchanged over Jordan Leopold between myself and his agent. It was spoken about from a 40,000 foot view while working on deals for St. Louis, Vokoun and Hannan, but I had to make my own judgement as to what I thought his value would be based on my other pending UFA negotiations, which is a bit unorthodox for a GM. And I guess that point is now moot, anyway.

Just wanted to be sure no one feels unfairly slammed on. Sorry for interjecting.

[NYRangersGM]

I love my player agent, I buy him a christmas card every year and have my wife bake him cookies.