WildGM
Minor League Grinder
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Post by WildGM on Nov 10, 2007 16:40:14 GMT -5
I agree with you Mark on all points with the exception of Archie Manning. Archie was the driving force behind Eli not wanting to play in San Diego. I don't think Eli gave two craps about where he was going to play. If he was so concerned about playing in a huge market like New York, Why did he play college at Old Miss?
The answer: to make his Dad happy Eli let his Dad make his decisions on draft day. I have no respect for Archie
I agree on all other points but he will still get to the hall
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Post by Elite Sim News (ESN) on Nov 10, 2007 17:14:23 GMT -5
You know what Mark...I'm officially gonna back off on my claim that Lindros was a generational talent. Elite player, but not generational.
I'll leave generational talent for Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux and Crosby types. d**n you Pens for getting a pair of them, haha.
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Post by Commissioner on Nov 18, 2007 12:27:36 GMT -5
Eric Lindros does not deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. Yes, his Points per game were excellent during all of the the 3 seasons he was healthy, yes. However, 865 points in 750+ games should not warrant a player to be in the Hall. How many cups has he helped to win for his organization?? How much leadership did he display on the ice. One Hart and Lester Pearson Trophy in an abbreviated strike year season doesn't warrant Hall of Fame consideration or Mike Liut would be a shooo in. Exactly, comical. In my opinion, Glenn Anderson deserves the Hall of Fame well above and before anything Eric Lindros has done or achieved.
Eric Lindros was dominate for a few years in the league. Big deal.
The HHOF needs to really exam their credentials to inductees, period. I've heard hockey pundits (all Canadian, of course) who say that Lindros is a definite for the Hall and Mike Modano and Jeremy Roenick are both 'bubble player'. Two players that have done only what 38 other players have done and scored 500 career NHL goals and these guys are 'bubble players' yet Eric Lindros, who won two "INDIVIDUAL ACHIEVEMENT" awards ONE abbreviated season is a guarantee to the Hall?
It's laughable.
Bottom line, Eric Lindros does not deserve to be in the Hall and I really don't care how dominate he was in abbreviated strike year 94-95 season.
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Post by Detroit Cherni on Nov 18, 2007 16:39:33 GMT -5
I agree with you Nate. Lindros isn't a Hall of Famer. Then again, would Pavel Bure be then? Modano is for sure. Roenick is a different question only because of his attitude. But I'd put him in for sure.
As for the Canadian pundits saying Big E should be in.......Those aren't Canadian pundits, those are the Toronto area pundits, namely TSN, who've been on the Lindros bandwagon since he was a 16-year old playing for the Oshawa Generals. To me, injuries killed his chances.
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Post by LAKingsGM on Nov 20, 2007 16:09:36 GMT -5
I shouldn't have stereotyped 'Canadians' with such a broad 'brush' and that's unfair. You are right, Dave. It is the Toronto and I'll even include Montreal pundits who can't think outside their little worlds....and for heaven sakes, if a player donned a Leafs or Habs sweater, it's a HOF guarantee!! I think Wade Belak will get more consideration for the Hall than Jeremy Roenick. ..okay, that was a bit 'offsides' wasn't it?? I'll shut up now.
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Post by formerDevilsGM on Nov 21, 2007 11:37:13 GMT -5
I agree he should not get in the HOF, but I do think he will get in because of the Power of the Media. The way TSN and the Toronto and Montreal media will make him out to be. A good example is our local ESN who started this post, look at all the postitives in his post when it came down to negatives there is only one and it got swept away because it should not matter that the guy was a total A$$ Hole. TSN and the media will do that exact same thing... no mention to the guy avaraging barely over 50 games per season, No Cups, No memorable clutch goals, played for himself and not for the team, etc, etc.
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Post by Elite Sim News (ESN) on Nov 21, 2007 13:11:57 GMT -5
Fair enough. Again, I really couldn't care less if he gets in or not. In my humble opinion he should, but you know what they say about opinions. For what it's worth, I also think Pavel Bure should be in someday. As for Roenick...there isn't another person associated with this league that could possibly love JR as much as I do. Growing up a Blackhawk fan and getting to watch him play (along with the likes of Chelios, Larmer, Goulet, Belfour, Smith etc) was a real treat. Roenick is my favorite player off all-time. That being said, JR was/is/will continue to be a douche. I tried defending his antics for years, but I've given up on that. You'd much rather be a fan of kids like Crosby and Lecavalier and Yzerman and whoever else that aren't d-bags like Roenick and Lindros. You don't ignore their talent though. All I'm saying is before the injuries dragged Lindros' career into the gutter, he was one of the best players the NHL has seen. That's a long list, but he's on it. If you can say with a straight face that Mike Modano and JR and the like were better players than Lindros was, more power to ya. Roenick got the Hawks as far as Lindros got the Flyers. I don't have to tell you the said end of the Pens-Hawks series. Roenick has 0 trophies (for whatever that matters). Roenick was never selected to an NHL All-Star team (NOTE: Not all-star game...bit of a difference). Lindros was a first teamer in 95 and a second teamer in 96. It's too bad the HHOF usually don't take international play into consideration, as Lindros had much success there as well (aside from the 98 olympics). Allow me say again...I couldn't care less if he gets in or not. To be honest the only reason I started this thread was to see what the crew in Pittsburgh would think, and honestly...who the hell is ever going to win a cup with Janne Niinimaa on the roster???
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